’92年は「Dancing The Dream」が発売になった年でもあり、前回のシカゴトリビューン紙もそうですが、このあとと比較すると、ストレートに読書家という面を打ち出している感じですね。

EBONY/JET: Do you have any special feeling about this return to the continent of Africa?


Michael Jackson: For me, it's like the "dawn of civilization." It's the first place where society existed. It's seen a lot of love. I guess there's that connection because it is the root of all rhythm. Everything. It's home.


EBONY/JET: You visited Africa in 1974. Can you compare and contrast the two visits?

1974年にアフリカを訪問したときと比較して、どうでしたか ?

Michael Jackson: I'm more aware of things this time: the people and how they live and their government. But for me, I'm more aware of the rhythms and the music and the people. That's what I'm really noticing more than any thing. The rhythms are incredible. You can tell especially the way the children move. Even the little babies, when they hear the drums, they start to move. The rhythm, the way it affects their soul and they start to move. The same thing that Blacks have in America.


EBONY/JET: How does it feel to be a real king?


Michael Jackson: I never try to think hard about it because I don't want it to go to my head. But, it's a great honor....


EBONY/JET: Speaking of music and rhythm, how did you put together the gospel songs on your last album?


Michael Jackson: I wrote "Will You Be There?" at my house, "Never Land" in California.... I didn't think about it hard. That's why it's hard to take credit for the songs that I write, because I just always feel that it's done from above. I feel fortunate for being that instrument through which music flows. I'm just the source through which it comes. I can't take credit for it because it's God's work. He's just using me as the messenger....

"Will You Be There"は、家で作曲したんだ。カリフォルニアのネヴァーランドで。。一生懸命考えたというわけじゃないから、自分が作曲したことになっているのは申し訳ないんだよね。曲はいつも空から降ってくるみたいな感じだから。僕は音楽を伝えられる道具であることを幸せに思う。僕は来たものを、出しているだけ。それは、神の仕業であって、僕の手柄とは言えない。神は僕をメッセンジャーとして使っているだけ。。

EBONY/JET: What was the concept for the Dangerous album?


Michael Jackson: I wanted to do an album that was like Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite. So that in a thousand years from now, people would still be listening to it. Something that would live forever. I would like to see children and teenagers and parents and all races all over the world, hundreds and hundreds of years from now, still pulling out songs from that album and dissecting it. I want it to live.

チャイコフスキーの『くるみ割り人形』のようなアルバムにしたかったんだ。今から1000年後も、人々に聴いてもらえて、 永遠に生き続けるような。子供も、若者も、その親たち、世界中のすべての人種が、何百年もの間、ずっとそのアルバムを取り上げて、議論している様を見てみたい。作品に生き続けて欲しいんだ。


EBONY/JET: I notice on this trip that you made a special effort to visit children.


Michael Jackson: I love children, as you can see. And babies.


EBONY/JET: And animals.


Michael Jackson: Well, there's a certain sense that animals and children have that gives me a certain creative juice, a certain force that later on in adulthood is kind of lost because of the conditioning that happens in the world. A great poet said once. "When I see children, I see that God has not yet given up on man." An Indian poet from India said that, and his name is Tagore. The innocence of children represents to me the source of infinite creativity. That is the potential of every human being. But by the time you are an adult, you're conditioned; you're so conditioned by the things about you and it goes.


Love. Children are loving, they don't gossip, they don't complain, they're just open-hearted. They're ready for you. They don't judge. They don't see things by way of color. They're very child-like. That's the problem with adults they lose that child-like quality. And that's the level of inspiration that's so needed and is so important for creating and writing songs and for a sculptor, a poet or a novelist. It's that same kind of innocence, that same level of consciousness, that you create from. And kids have it. I feel it right away from animals and children and nature. Of course. And when I'm on stage. I can't perform if I don't have that kind of ping pony with the crowd. You know the kind of cause and effect action, reaction. Because I play off of them. They're really feeding me and I'm just acting from their energy.




EBONY/JET: Where is all this heading?


Michael Jackson: I really believe that God chooses people to do certain things, the way Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci or Mozart or Muhammad Ali or Martin Luther King is chosen. And that is their mission to do that thing. And I think that I haven't scratched the surface yet of what my real purpose is for being here. I'm committed to my art.


I believe that all art has as its ultimate goal the union between the material and the spiritual, the human and the divine. And I believe that that is the very reason for the exis-tence of art and what I do. And I feel fortunate in being that instrument through which music flows.... Deep inside I feel that this world we live in is really a big, huge, monumental symphonic orchestra.

僕は、すべての芸術には、物質と精神、人間と神聖の融合という究極のゴールがあると思っている。そして、それが、まさしく芸術が存在する理由であり、僕がするべきことだと。だから、僕は音楽を伝えられる道具であることを幸せに思う。 .... 魂の奥底で感じるんだ。僕たちが生きているこの世界は大きく、巨大な、とてつもないオーケストラなんだって。

I believe that in its primordial form all of creation is sound and that it's not just random sound, that it's music. You've heard the expression, music of the spheres? Well, that's a very literal phrase. In the Gospels, we read, "And the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul."

僕は、すべての創造の原始のかたちは「音」だったんじゃないかと信じてる。そして、それはランダムな音ではなく、音楽だったと。君は「天球の音楽」(*)という表現を聞いたことがある? ゴスペルでは、決まり文句のように、「そして、神は地球の塵から、人間を創り、その鼻に息を吹き込み、そして、人間は生きる魂となった」と言うよね。

That breath of life to me is the music of life and it permeates every fiber of creation. In one of the pieces of the Dangerous album, I say: "Life songs of ages, throbbing in my blood, have danced the rhythm of the tide and flood."
This is a very literal statement, because the same new miracle intervals and biological rhythms that sound out the architecture of my DNA also governs the movement of the stars.

僕にとって、生命の息吹というのは、生命の音楽であり、それは創造のすべての細胞に浸透するんだ。アルバム『デンジャラス』にある作品のひとつで(→「Planet Earth」)、僕は「僕に流れる血の中で、幾時代もの生命の歌が、寄せては返す波のようなリズムを踊る」と言ってるけど、それは、文字通りの声明なんだよ。僕のDNAから生み出される、僕の生体リズムや音階は、新たな奇跡だから、星の運行にも影響を及ぼす。

The same music governs the rhythm of the seasons, the pulse of our heartbeats, the migration of birds, the ebb and flow of ocean tides, the cycles of growth, evolution and dissolution. It's music, it's rhythm. And my goal in life is to give to the world what I was lucky to receive: the ecstasy of divine union through my music and my dance. It's like, my purpose, it's what I'm here for.


EBONY/JET: What about politics?


Michael Jackson: I never get into politics. But I think music soothes the savage beast. If you put cells under a microscope and you put music on, you'll see them move and start to dance. It affects the soul.... I hear music in everything. [Pauses] You know, that's the most I've said in eight years. You know I don't give interviews. That because I know you, and I trust you. You're the only person I trust to give interviews to.




感情や自己の表現を音楽の本質とする見方が普及した19世紀以降、こうした音楽観は顧みられなくなっていったが、20世紀になると、シェーンベルクなどの前衛音楽家が受け継ぐことになり、1977年に打ち上げられたボイジャーには、地球を代表する音楽や、各言語でのあいさつなどが収められた黄金のレコードが積まれ、 風や犬の鳴き声を収録した「地球の音」の最初には、天球の音楽が収録された。




マイケルが言っている、"When I see children, I see that God has not yet given up on man." 「子供たちを見れば、神は人間を見捨ててはいないことがわかる」は、"Every child comes with the message that God is not yet discouraged of man" がよくある英訳で、

タゴール自身が英訳した詩集『迷い鳥たち(Stray Birds)』内山眞里子訳 にこの詩は納められています。



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